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Outside/In

Where the Wild Things Grow

Outside/In

NHPR

Science, Renewable Energy, Energy, Documentary, Outdoor Recreation, Environment, Climate, Public Radio, Wildlife, Nature, Natural World, Ecology, Society & Culture, Human Interest Stories, Wildlife Management, Biology, Outdoors, Wilderness, Natural Sciences

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Mississippi-born writer Kiese Laymon on the beauty of his grandma’s garden, Emmett Till, Maurice Sendak, and his first children’s book, “City Summer, Country Summer.”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, this is Outside In, a show where curiosity and the natural world collide.

0:05.0

I'm Nate Hedgy.

0:06.1

There's a saying out there that goes like this.

0:09.0

There are two kinds of people in the world.

0:11.5

The ones who think there are two kinds of people in the world, and then the ones who know better.

0:18.9

Anyway, perhaps one of the easiest and most common ways of dividing up the world is this.

0:26.1

There are city people and country people.

0:31.0

Sometimes these are labels that we adopt ourselves.

0:33.4

I'm more of like a country, rural mountain boy, if I'm being honest.

0:36.7

And sometimes these are labels that we use to describe others.

0:40.3

This divide is even the basis of an ancient children's story.

0:44.6

Town Mouse, Country Mouse, from Aesop's Fables, literally thousands of years old.

0:52.9

But some people live with a foot in both worlds.

0:57.6

All right.

0:57.9

My name is Kias A. Laman.

0:59.7

I'm a writer born and raised in Jackson, Mississippi.

1:03.5

Jackson isn't a massive city, but the metropolitan area is home to 20% of the state's

1:09.4

entire population.

1:11.1

And to someone growing up in that part of Mississippi, it was big.

1:14.7

Did you think of yourself as a city kid growing up?

1:17.3

That's our producer, Justine Paradise.

1:19.5

I love that question.

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