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🗓️ 21 November 2024
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is poised to have an influential role in the next Trump administration as the president-elect's pick to lead the Department of Health and Human Services. Recently, Kennedy told news outlets that a top priority will be directing communities to take fluoride out of their drinking water.
Fluoride has been a pillar of public health for decades, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention describes it as one of the 10 greatest public health achievements of the 20th century. Experts point to evidence that it strengthens teeth and improves oral health. But fluoride has also inflamed local debates, where some oppose the government putting something in public drinking water. Recent research also raises questions about potential benefits and harms of fluoride.
Yet these growing debates are already well underway in Oregon, which is home to Portland, the largest U.S. city without fluoride in its drinking water. The liberal suburb of Hillsboro and the small conservative town of Lebanon may also foreshadow the impassioned fights that could soon spread across the country. Whether to add or remove fluoride from drinking water was on the ballots in both places this month, fueling intense battles in person and online.
National health reporter Fenit Nirappil recently traveled to Oregon to understand up close the science and politics of fluoride. He spoke with host Elahe Izadi about what he learned.
Today’s show was produced by Elana Gordon, who also contributed reporting. Sabby Robinson contributed production help. It was edited by Reena Flores, with help from Lucy Perkins, and it was mixed by Justin Gerrish. Thanks to Tracy Jan.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, how are you doing? |
| 0:04.0 | Hi. |
| 0:05.0 | Are you Ron? |
| 0:06.0 | I'm Ron. |
| 0:07.0 | Nice to meet you. |
| 0:08.0 | I'm Mayor Jacal. |
| 0:09.0 | So, what do you guys want to do? |
| 0:11.0 | Want to see where the magic happens? |
| 0:14.0 | Where the magic happens? |
| 0:15.0 | Well, we'll give you a tour of the plant. |
| 0:17.0 | What you're hearing is health reporter |
| 0:26.0 | Fenit Nierapil entering a water treatment facility last week |
| 0:29.5 | in Lebanon, Oregon. |
| 0:31.5 | The mayor's there, a city counselor, the city manager. |
| 0:35.0 | They're going into this building about the size of a big gymnasium, with |
| 0:38.8 | pipes everywhere. The plant operator, Tyson Keene, leads the way. How do I even describe what I'm |
| 0:45.5 | seeing? I'm seeing a lot of white cylinders. What are those cylinders that we're looking at? |
| 0:51.8 | Easiest way to describe it is if you've ever made like spaghetti, it's basically a |
| 0:56.1 | colander. It's a mechanical device that has super small pores that basically blocks the things |
| 1:01.1 | you don't want in your drinking water on one side and lets water that you do want to drink |
| 1:05.7 | and go through, pass through the fiber onto the other side so you have clean water. |
| 1:11.0 | Lebanon is a small town in central Oregon, about 20,000 people. |
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