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Where Murder Lies with Burl Barer & Frank Girardot - Mysteries, Mayhem & Merlot

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Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.6627 Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

In 2004, the murder of a retired Los Angeles schoolteacher was “solved” in record time. A suspect was arrested within hours, charges were filed almost immediately, and a conviction soon followed. But the case’s speed concealed a devastating truth—an innocent, special-needs teenager named Jimmy Kitlas was sent to prison for a crime he did not commit. Twenty years later, the case is reopened in Where Murder Lies, as investigators Burl Barer and Frank C. Girardot expose a shocking web of deception, manipulation, and investigative misconduct. What begins as a seemingly simple homicide spirals into a bizarre and dangerous criminal enterprise involving stolen gold, MDMA smuggling, and a stunning alliance between the American Mafia and the Russian Mob—one that may have defrauded the U.S. government out of billions. This episode examines wrongful conviction, tunnel vision policing, and how justice can fail when closing a case matters more than finding the truth. BUY the BOOK- https://amzn.to/49g4FYz Where Murder Lies with Burl Barer & Frank Girardot - Mysteries, Mayhem & Merlot  Check out the merch, blog, buy the book, and so much more! mysteriesmayhemandmerlot.net WHERE’S WINNIE! - https://linktr.ee/WinnieSchrader Check out Winnie’s Linktree for everything Winnie! From merch for Paranormal 60, Love+Lotus Tarot & Mysteries, Mayhem & Merlot to digital designs with WS Media & more! Find the Paranormal 60 Podcast & Mysteries, Mayhem & Merlot Podcasts on Rumble Use our link & Sign Up Today! - https://rumble.com/register/Paranormal60Network IF YOU NEED HELP PLEASE CONTACT Call or Text to 988 Chat online at https://988lifeline.org/ PLEASE SUPPORT THE ADVERTISERS THAT SUPPORT THIS SHOW From Haunted to Heartwarming, come stay with us at the Palmer House Hotel! (320) 351-9100 ⁠https://www.thepalmerhousehotel.com/⁠ TalkSpace - Get $80 off your first month with Talkspace when you go to Talkspace.com/podcast and enter promo code SPACE80. True Classic - Step into your new home for the best clothes at True Classic ⁠www.TrueClassic.com/P60⁠ Raycon Everyday Earbuds - Save up to 30% Off at ⁠www.buyraycon.com/truecrimenetwork⁠ Cornbread Hemp - Save 30% off your first order at ⁠www.cornbreadhemp.com/P60⁠ and enter P60 into the coupon code Mint Mobile - To get your new wireless plan for just $15 a month, and get the plan shipped to your door for FREE, go to ⁠⁠⁠www.MintMobile.com/P60⁠ Cozy Earth - Begin your sleep adventure on the best bedding and sleepwear with Cozy Earth: ⁠https://cozyearth.com/⁠ use Promo Code P60 for up to 40% off savings! PLEASE RATE & REVIEW MYSTERIES, MAYHEM & MERLOT PODCAST WHEREVER YOU LISTEN #TrueCrime #WrongfulConviction #WhereMurderLies #JimmyKitlas #InnocentInPrison #JusticeFailed #ColdCase #Framed #PoliceMisconduct #InvestigativeJournalism #MafiaConnections #RussianMob #OrganizedCrime #CrimePodcast #TrueCrimeCommunity #Exoneration #Corruption #UnsolvedTruth #MysteriesMayhemMerlot

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That means you.

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Because at Paddy Power Games, we've got all sorts of games for all sorts of trickles. Eligibility rules in terms of conditions apply. Please gamble responsibly. 8 plus gamboloware.org. Hi, just leave on work now. Sorry, it's a bit loud. Um, basically, so I was thinking we could get Macies tonight. Had a big Mac on my mind all day and delivery fee on the app is now from 99p.

0:39.9

So you win?

0:41.1

Gorsua. Um, basically, so I was thinking we could get Mackeys tonight. Had a big Mac on my mind all day, and delivery fee on the app is now from 99P. So, you win? Of course you are. Love you. Bye! Exclusively on the McDonald's app. 18 plus, service fee and small order fee may apply, but it's a pacing restaurants. Serving times and teas and seas apply. This is it. The world, as you know it, is over. Completely done. It's not about to be over. It's over.

0:59.2

Some of the scientists who helped build AI are now sounding the alarm. I was selling AI as a great

1:07.6

thing for decades and I was wrong. I was wrong.

1:12.4

There is a longer term existential threat that will arise when we create digital beings

1:17.2

that are more intelligent than ourselves. We have no idea whether we can stay in control.

1:22.7

While others say that AI will usher in unfathomable abundance.

1:26.7

I've always believed that it's going to be the most important invention that humanity will ever make.

1:31.3

This really will be a world of abundance.

1:34.1

And among these fears and these fantasies, we seek the story of our future.

1:39.5

Listen to the last invention on Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcast.

1:49.0

The content presented in this podcast is based on real events and may contain graphic descriptions of violence-sensitive topics and explicit language that may be triggering offensive or sensitive subjects to some viewers and listeners.

2:01.6

Discretion is advised. The purpose of this podcast is to explore and discuss true crime cases

2:07.8

for entertainment and educational purposes only. This podcast does not intend to glorify or

2:13.7

sensationalize crime, but rather aims to analyze and understand the complexities of human behavior

2:19.0

in the criminal justice system. We encourage listeners to approach this content with empathy,

2:24.8

critical thinking, respect for the victims, and their families. The

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