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I'm Alison Beard, and this is the HBR Ideacast.

All right, Allison, this question's going to seem random, but I promise you it's not. What was your major in college?

I was a double major in journalism and politics at Washington and Lee University. Okay, I was history at Haverford, another liberal arts college. If you're like me, you probably figured that your majors equipped you well for something like journalism, but maybe not so well for something like management consulting, which has tended to recruit people who studied economics or engineering, you know, or business.

Yeah, I always thought of consulting and finance as a place

where sort of all the most ambitious, highest achievers, most capitalistic students wanted to go.

And those firms definitely focused on the Ivy League and the big universities.

The world is changing. We know that. AI is remaking everything, including the world of management.

And my guest today, McKinsey's global managing partner, has a lot to say about how it is

rethinking its business in this era.

So McKinsey already views its first AI agents as very much part of its workforce and is

rapidly expanding that part of its team.

But while AI is really good at linear problem solving, it's not so good at out-of-the-box thinking,

which means McKinsey is rethinking its talent needs. I'm not going to spoil it, but your

journalism politics double major might line up well with what the consulting giant is

increasingly looking for. So here's my interview with Bob Sternfels, Global Managing Partner at

McKinsey, which is celebrating its 100th anniversary this year.

So I want to start. McKinsey is turning, maybe has turned 100. HBR, by the way, we're 103.

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