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The Next Level

Where Did the Empathy for Ukraine Go? (with Terrell Starr)

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2023

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Terrell Starr joins Tim to discuss being a Black reporter in Ukraine, and how that impacts the way he views the Russian invasion of the country. He also delves into the current mentality of Ukrainian citizens towards the defense effort, as well as how they view the stalemate in the United States over additional funds its ally.

Terrell's YouTube channel, Black Diplomats official, can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/@BlackDiplomatsOfficial/videos

Subscribe to Terrell's newsletter here: https://substack.com/@terrellstarr (First article publishes next week.

If you'd like to donate to some Ukrainian organizations Terrell recommends, click on the links below:

Nareshti Help Fund: https://nareshti.com. PAYPAL info: nareshti.help@gmail.com (In the note say, "Terrell Starr sent me your way.")

Yahidne Mission, which helps to rebuild homes in formerly occupied cities:  https://heylink.me/Yahidne_mission/

Tatyana Kagitina, who supports Ukrainian soldiers who need winter gear, can be reached by email at tkagitina@gmail.com. (In the note say, "Terrell Starr sent me your way.")

Follow Terrell on social media with links below.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/terrelljstarr
IG: https://www.instagram.com/terrelljstarr?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr
Threads: terrelljstarr@threads.net


Transcript

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Tees and C's apply Samsung.com pricing shown. Hello, interview it's Tim and I have got Terrell Star with me. Terrell runs the Black

0:46.4

Diplomat Social Media Feed and we'll get into it on the podcast. I found

0:50.8

him so interesting when I stumbled on an Instagram as a black American

0:56.0

born Detroit has a crazy kind of life story who learned Russian went to the Peace

1:01.5

Corps, moved to Eastern Europe, moved to Ukraine, was doing

1:05.0

independent journalism there, and then the war started.

1:07.8

And so I've been looking for a way to get him on here to both give us an update about life in Ukraine and also kind of talk about the

1:15.8

interesting racial dynamic of you know thinking about his life in America and

1:20.5

and the racial challenges he faced here and then going in Eastern Europe where he's like the only black person within 100,000 miles.

1:26.0

Okay, maybe that's an overstatement, but you get the gist.

1:28.0

And so he's got an interesting story and this was the week to do it because you know Zellensky was in DC as we discussed on the

1:35.4

Wednesday next level there is I think very real concern that the United States

1:41.0

support for our ally is about to run out because of the Republican Party,

1:48.2

because of the nihilism, because of the Maggot nationalism, and you know, because unfortunately the Republicans who to date

1:54.7

have been actually good on this to Mitch McConnell's of the world seems like they

1:59.0

might have run out of political capital on their own side I hope that's not the

2:02.2

case I really do we hash that all out on Wednesday political capital on their own side. I hope that's not the case.

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