Where DEI goes to DIE
The Michele Tafoya Podcast
Salem Podcast Network
2.4 • 590 Ratings
🗓️ 27 February 2023
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
Ilya Shapiro of the Manhattan Institute joins Michele to explore whether or not DEI — Diversity, Equity and Inclusion — is productive. Is it what it claims to be? Is it truly “inclusive”? No matter where you fall ideologically, this is worthwhile debate.
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| 0:00.7 | Welcome to another episode of sideline sanity with me, Michelle Tofoya, sponsored by Legacy |
| 0:05.2 | Precious metals. There has never been a better time to invest in precious metals. |
| 0:09.4 | Go to legacy p.m.investments.com. Legacy p.m. Investments.com. So what really is diversity, equity, |
| 0:19.7 | inclusion, also known as DEI? What really is it? What is diversity, equity, and inclusion, also known as DEI? |
| 0:22.3 | What really is it? |
| 0:23.9 | What does diversity mean? |
| 0:25.8 | What does equity mean? |
| 0:27.4 | What does inclusion mean? |
| 0:28.7 | And those words, when they are put together in this little umbrella of DEI, what does that look like on campus in particular? |
| 0:45.9 | How many officers, vice presidents, chair people, board people fall under that DEI category. |
| 0:48.1 | What do they do on campus? |
| 0:52.0 | And what are they doing to education? |
| 0:55.2 | What's going on for real? |
| 0:57.0 | Is it healthy? |
| 0:58.4 | Is it smart? |
| 0:59.2 | Is it wise? |
| 1:00.2 | Is it fair? |
| 1:02.4 | Ilya Shapiro. |
| 1:09.2 | Once a Georgetown lecturer who parted ways after they disagreed with some of his tweets, |
| 1:12.3 | he's a guy who likes liberty. He's a guy who believes in the Constitution. He works for the Manhattan Institute. And he is working with another |
| 1:17.5 | very well-known name, Christopher Rufo, on a project to say to state legislators, hey, you can |
| 1:25.6 | eliminate this DEI from colleges and universities and other schools |
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