Hello everyone this is J. V. L. here with my best friends Sarah Longwell and Tim

Miller of the Bulwark guys the time is just ticking off the clock. We're getting there very soon. We're what six weeks out?

People are already voting some places.

It's already that one. Early voting has begun some places and this is our last show before the vice presidential debate

in which millions of Americans will get to meet Tim Walls and J.D. Vance for the first time. Boy, I bet they were excited

about that. So I guess Tim, this debate will not matter at all right?

I mean yes at the biggest possible, it will not matter at all.

Could it matter on the margin?

You know, sure.

I think that the VPs are a little more interesting this time.

And it's kind of closer to the Palin debate.

I mean, I remember, I don't know where you guys were, but I remember remember the there was like some excitement the

palan debate like I went to a debate watch party for the palan uh... VP debate in

2008 against Joe Biden people are interested to learn about her.

You know, I think that, who weren't just super political nerds.

So I think there'll be a little bit of that this time.

I think there's some interest in Tim Walls.

Obviously, I think that like JD Vance's weirdness and creepiness is

interesting to people. So I think that it will have a higher viewership than your median VP debate for that reason.

I think that as Sarah has very well put, so I won't take her thunder from her.

JD has emphasized Trump's negatives in a lot of ways and so he could continue to do that in ways that would be problematic.

Trump is also 78 years old, it would be 82 at the end of his next term.

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