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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio

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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Armstrong and Getty.

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

Democrats are going to push back aggressively to make sure that we have fair maps across the country, not partisan gerrymandering, which Republicans have initiated in state

after state after state.

Wow.

I know.

I know.

The great race to the bottom of gerrymandering with each side saying, this makes us sad,

but we're only doing it because we have to because the evildoers on the other side have done it first. How are grown-ups not in charge of all of this? How are patriots not in charge of all? Yeah, patriots who, like, I'm a Democrat, you're a Republican, but we're both patriots, and we both know that Illinois is gerrymandered to death. In Massachusetts, it's gerrymandered to death. And now Texas is trying to do it.

How about we do away with gerrymandering the best we can in all states?

Yeah, yeah, it's tough.

Man, self-governance is tough in the modern age.

Because, like California is a great example.

Came up with a really solid-looking, non-partisan, independent districting commission featuring lots

of citizens.

But the Democrats, because this one-party state, gained it immediately and got control of it

by lying about who is who and the rest of it.

Which is why, while Republicans represent about 40% of the votes in California,

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