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The Indicator from Planet Money

Where are all the COVID-19 bankruptcies?

The Indicator from Planet Money

NPR

Business

4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2022

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

For much of the pandemic, government aid helped lower the number of personal bankruptcies dramatically. With those measures ending, close observers say a sharp increase is likely.

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0:09.0

So, Darian Woods, if you were to pick a number that went in a surprising direction during

0:16.0

the pandemic, what would you choose?

0:18.0

Ooh, what about, um, Alice of Netflix logged?

0:21.0

I don't know if that's a big surprise.

0:24.8

How about personal bankruptcies?

0:26.9

Personal bankruptcies.

0:28.1

These actually went down.

0:29.8

Yeah, way down, right?

0:31.2

So we just got the numbers for 2021, just under 400,000 people filed for bankruptcy.

0:36.8

And that's down by about a half from 2019, the year before the pandemic.

0:42.3

But I think we're going to see that trend head the other way, like in a big way.

0:46.0

So what makes you think that, Dan?

0:47.3

Well, you know, I've got a crystal ball.

0:49.2

And we've got somebody on the inside.

0:52.6

My name is Laura Cicarelli.

0:54.0

I am a certified credit counselor.

0:57.0

Laura works for a nonprofit agency called American Financial Solutions.

1:00.9

My job basically is helping people who are having a difficult time with their finances or

1:04.9

with debt to find solutions that make sense for their situation.

1:08.5

Laura spends her entire week talking with people like dozens of people each week for whom

1:13.1

bankruptcy could make a lot of sense.

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