When Your Schedule Is Full: Managing Referrals in Child Psychiatry
The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast
Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast
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🗓️ 20 October 2025
⏱️ 14 minutes
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Published On: 10/20/2025
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| 0:00.0 | You want to help every family that calls, but your schedule's full and the need keeps growing. |
| 0:06.9 | What can you do when you can't take another patient? |
| 0:10.7 | In this episode, we'll talk about how to manage referrals, support other providers, and build systems that make a difference even when you have to say no. |
| 0:24.9 | I'm Dr. Josh Fader, the editor-chief of the Carlott Child Psychiatry Report, and co-author of |
| 0:30.3 | the Child Medication Fact Book for Psychiatric Practice, Second Edition, 2023, and our other book |
| 0:35.7 | Prescribing Psychotropics. |
| 0:39.9 | And I'm Mara Government, a licensed clinical social worker in Southern California with a private practice and an avid reader of |
| 0:46.1 | the Carlet Psychiatry Reports. Today, we're talking about something that almost every mental |
| 0:52.0 | health provider in child and adolescent care |
| 0:54.9 | runs into too many referrals and not enough capacity. Right now, the number of trained child |
| 1:02.3 | psychiatrists in the U.S. sits around 8,300. Meanwhile, more than 15 million kids and teens |
| 1:08.7 | meet criteria for a psychiatric diagnosis. That's about one in five. |
| 1:14.0 | And the gaps hit hardest in rural areas and communities with fewer resources. It raises a question |
| 1:21.3 | providers face constantly, which referrals do you take and what do you do with the ones you can't? |
| 1:36.5 | Yeah, so let's start there. |
| 1:38.2 | One of the first things clinicians can do is clarify their scope, |
| 1:41.9 | what kinds of patients they're set up to see, what treatments they offer, |
| 1:45.7 | and what their capacity looks like for new referrals. That kind of clarity can shape what gets |
| 1:50.6 | accepted and what's redirected. And that redirection matters. Families are often left hanging |
| 1:57.7 | when they hear, I'm not accepting new patients. A better approach is to build a plan. |
| 2:04.0 | What do you say? Where do you point them to? What resources can you share? Even if you can't take them |
| 2:10.6 | yourself, you can give them an X step. That might be a referral list. Ideally, at least three names, |
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