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🗓️ 6 September 2023
⏱️ 114 minutes
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What’s life like for a high schooler who’s home town gets invaded by a foreign army? Ali Ali was living in historic Babylon, in Iraq, during the War on Terror. He joins to discuss what an invasion is like, what life is like in a lawless state, and his interpretations of the United States as an immigrant to it.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the political orphanage, a home for Pucky Misfits and Problem Solvers. I'm your host Andrew Heaton. |
0:17.0 | This last weekend was my 20th high school reunion. I didn't go because I didn't find out about it until about a month ago |
0:27.8 | and I'm not presently in the same country and it was too late to make any travel |
0:31.8 | decisions at that point. I would have liked to have |
0:33.5 | gone. So all the same I did some self-reflection on where I am now, where I was 20 years |
0:40.4 | ago and also I carefully compared my hairline and waistline to a bunch of dudes |
0:47.7 | on Facebook to make sure I am decomposing at an appropriate rate. |
0:53.4 | But enough about me, and my rock-solid hairline, I want you to think about your senior year, |
1:00.9 | think back to your senior year of high school. What were the biggest concerns facing you personally? |
1:07.0 | What were the biggest concerns facing your community? |
1:11.0 | Recently I made friends with someone who is approximately my age, |
1:15.1 | but whereas I grew up in Edmond, Oklahoma, |
1:18.0 | they grew up in Iraq, the Tishamengo of the Middle East, same time period, but radically different lives, |
1:26.7 | radically different childhood and early adolescence. |
1:31.3 | As a high school student, my guest today's hometown got invaded. The government collapsed and he lived in a lawless state. |
1:40.0 | A short while after living in an authoritarian state flooded with Saddam Hussein propaganda |
1:46.4 | surveilled by Bathist thought-control agents that would even meet him at his school. |
1:51.8 | And I thought, what the hell is that like? |
1:55.9 | What's it like growing up in a country |
1:57.6 | where telling jokes can get you sent to prison, |
2:00.5 | where education and the news are permeated with propaganda, |
2:04.5 | and where culture is built around a cult of personality. |
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