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From Gimlet, this is the pitch. I'm Josh Muchio. A little over a year ago, we had a founder on the show, Shao Wang, who said his startup boundless was going to help immigrants

with all the confusing paperwork they need to get legal status.

It's a subject that Shao is close to, being an immigrant himself, and it's something he believed could be a huge business.

Well, since Shao's pitch, the stakes around immigration have only gotten higher.

So we wanted to see how boundless is

fairing in this new world. Today we're going to play you a lightly edited version

of Shao's original pitch and then in the second half of the show, we'll talk to him about where Boundless is today.

Hi, good morning. I'm Shao.

Hey, Michael.

Good morning.

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