Okay, before we get started today I've got a question for you, not you, Anne, our

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Probably the most challenging thing Jesus said.

Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.

What are you talking about there are enemies? You don't pray, you don't love your enemies.

Why would you do that? And Jesus said, well, very clearly, that's the only way people will know what the father's like. Welcome to Family Life Today where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most.

I'm Shelby Abbott and your hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson.

You can find us at Family Life Today.

This is Family Life Today.

So we're talking about a subject I just hate talking about. You know, a little thing

called Grace.

Getting to talk to Philipiancy yesterday, I'm still wiping tears for my eyes because when he talks about

grace, when the Bible talks about grace, and when Jesus demonstrates grace, it's so heavenly, it's so otherworldly, it's so compelling.

Philip, Yancey is back with us today.

You know yesterday, Philip, when you were right toward the end of our program, you're talking about Jesus

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