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Coffee House Shots

When will the blue-on-blue end?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Daily News, Politics

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 August 2022

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

The Tory contenders are expected to announce their own measures to protect households and businesses from the energy crisis. Why has it taken this long? Labour too, is yet to reveal a strategy. Will they leave the Tories to fight amongst themselves?

Also on the podcast, Nicola Sturgeon has made a comeback at Liz Truss who earlier in the month called the Scottish leader an attention seeker. At the Edinburgh fringe festival, she told the audience that Liz Truss once asked her how to be featured in Vogue. So who is the real attention seeker now? And will they ever see eye-to-eye if Truss gets into No.10?

Isabel Hardman speaks to Katy Balls and James Forsyth.
Produced by Natasha Feroze.

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Well, the route in the Conservative Party over the cost of living crisis continues with

0:36.0

Martin Lewis, the money-saving expert, being the main face on the airways, talking about

0:41.5

measures to deal with it.

0:43.2

And the leadership contenders, Rishi Sunak and Liz Tross, waiting either until later in

0:47.4

the month or the start of September to announce their plans.

0:52.2

Katie, how sustainable is that?

0:54.2

I think we're already seeing a slight softening of the language when it comes to that I will

0:59.4

use the phrase handouts.

1:00.4

I think that might mean I'm a badly behaved member of the media, but effectively the idea

1:06.2

of this relief, and I think from the trust camp, it does feel that obviously going back

1:11.4

to that interview, the weekend, which really set the cat among the pigeons of tax cuts

1:15.9

over handouts, almost suggesting no handouts.

1:19.1

Then you have the comments yesterday, I think with now in a situation where there's

1:22.8

trusses said that she will do all I can to ensure people are able to pay their energy

1:27.6

bills this winter, and those close to have said that she is looking at direct payments

1:33.4

to poorer families.

1:34.4

I don't think you should call it a handout, but we can call it what we like.

1:39.0

So I think there is a slight softening that sets the trying to calm some of the nerves

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