Spiegel and Holmes

Everything's fine

Lawrence everything's fine

Matt everything's fine

Tanny everything's fine

Afternoons on the score

What's the dynamic been between you and Ben

the last two weeks where there's some

Some tough film to watch

He's also been very supportive of you publicly

What's the balance there in terms of

accountability and support?

Tough film to watch.

Yeah, there's always accountability with us and Ben.

It's always, you know, point a finger at yourself

before you go point anybody else.

But I'm not necessarily going to say tough film or anything like that.

I'm a little confused on why you can't say it was tough film to watch.

It wasn't like, and I thought that in the first half of the first game, Caleb played all right.

And most of the game that he played against the

lions was okay but to not acknowledge that there were some bad misses and stuff I I thought

that was a weird his reaction didn't make sense for the question that was asked by one jason leisure who who is sitting in for Matt Spiegel today. I was fine with his response, though. He gets his opinion. I mean, I have mine. He has his. I'm straightforward about what I ask, and he gets that guy, to his credit, engage, I have never seen him turn down a question either overtly or by dodging it with his, like he takes it on.

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