When will A.I. want to kill us?
Think from KERA
KERA
4.7 • 911 Ratings
🗓️ 9 February 2026
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
A.I. is becoming smarter without much help from humans, and that should worry us all. Nate Soares, president of Machine Intelligence Research Institute (MIRI), joins host Krys Boyd to discuss what happens when A.I. brain power surpasses what humans are capable of, why we don’t have the technology yet to understand what we’re building, and why everything will be just fine … until it isn’t. His book, co-written with Eliezer Yudkowsky, is “If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies: Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us All.”
This week, we're revisiting episodes that are all about A.I.
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| 0:00.0 | You know that old saying that fish don't know they're in water? |
| 0:13.1 | It feels apt to me in this moment when artificial intelligence is finding its way into |
| 0:17.0 | nearly every aspect of daily life, whether or not we've ever downloaded a chatbot to our phones. |
| 0:23.4 | What will that mean once the AI can do everything better |
| 0:26.5 | than the flesh and blood creatures that brought it into existence? |
| 0:30.3 | From KERA in Dallas, this is Think. I'm Chris Boyd. |
| 0:34.6 | AI is not there yet, but it keeps getting more capable and powerful all the time. |
| 0:39.9 | Some of that evolution can happen without human intervention or even human comprehension of how |
| 0:45.6 | or why. |
| 0:46.8 | And my guest believes there is a strong chance that once artificial intelligence supersedes us |
| 0:51.6 | entirely, it will have little use for humans, which could pose an |
| 0:56.2 | existential threat. Nate's stories is president of Machine Intelligence Research Institute, or |
| 1:01.6 | Miri. Together with Eliezer Yudkowski, he is the author of, If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies, |
| 1:07.7 | Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us all. Nate, welcome to think. |
| 1:11.6 | Thanks for having me. |
| 1:13.6 | That is quite a subtitle. |
| 1:14.6 | Not could kill us all, might kill us all, would kill us all. |
| 1:18.6 | We actually fought to, the publishing house wanted it to be will kill us all, and we fought |
| 1:24.6 | to have it be would kill us all for the same reason the title |
| 1:27.8 | starts with if of you know that's the track we're on looks like it's headed to disaster but that doesn't |
| 1:34.7 | mean we can't change course I think a lot of people would write a book and be irritated to have |
| 1:39.9 | readers and critics call it alarmist you really are trying to sound an alarm here. That's right. And |
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