This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Saturday, December 29th, 2018.

I'm Caleb Brown.

What happens when a local union is lobbying on the opposite side of the State Union?

And what happens when that local union decides to sever ties with that State Union?

Well, that's the case of Frank Ritchie and his local firefighters union in Connecticut.

The Fairness Center has taken his case.

In Utah this October, I spoke with David Osborne,

president of the Fairness Center.

Careful listeners of this podcast will recall the Janus case that was decided earlier in 2018 and that was the case of a

public sector worker who didn't want to do it have anything to do with his

union of which he was not a member, and the Supreme Court found for

Mr. Janus, and a lot of people that I've been talking to have been focusing on, you know,

what's next after Janus? And even though this isn't too strongly related,

it's not dissimilar, this is a case where a union is suing another union over not wanting to be affiliated with this union

anymore.

Describe the case.

Yeah, hi, thanks for having me.

This is a case about really about the freedom of a local

union to control its own destiny and there's a local firefighters union in New Haven

Connecticut that reached out to us about an issue that honestly

I never anticipated we'd be involved in.

This is a union that was experiencing the same kind of pressure, the same kind of mistreatment that a lot of members and non-members face.

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