When Uncle Sam owned banks and factories
The Indicator from Planet Money
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🗓️ 23 July 2025
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| 0:00.0 | NPR. |
| 0:11.7 | This is the indicator from planet money. |
| 0:13.8 | I'm Daryan Woods. |
| 0:15.0 | And I'm Waylon Wong. |
| 0:16.2 | I don't know about you, Daryan, but lately, I've been seeing some things in the news that have shaken my idea |
| 0:22.1 | of what it means to do business in America. Are you talking about Zoran Mamdani's idea of |
| 0:27.3 | opening government-owned grocery stores in New York City? Well, that definitely got tongues wagging, |
| 0:32.8 | I will say. And then just this month, the Pentagon acquired a stake in a rare earth mining company. |
| 0:40.1 | And that's after the government took what's called a golden share in U.S. steel. |
| 0:44.9 | The quintessential American economic myth is that the free market, not the government, decides |
| 0:50.3 | which businesses deserve investment and a shot of success. Now we see the Trump administration |
| 0:56.2 | becoming a partial owner in private businesses. And this is actually history repeating itself. |
| 1:02.4 | The U.S. used to have a national investment bank. This was a government-run entity that took on |
| 1:07.8 | different forms during its life. It bought up stakes in private banks and |
| 1:11.6 | developed new manufacturing industries. It even created the 30-year mortgage. |
| 1:16.7 | Economist Chris Hughes has studied the history of this bank. It's sort of shocking how few people |
| 1:22.5 | know that we had a national investment bank for 20 years in the United States. |
| 1:28.3 | And it was popular on both sides of the aisle, started by a Republican, |
| 1:34.6 | and incredibly helpful in getting us out of the Depression |
| 1:37.6 | and then in preparing us for the war effort. |
| 1:40.4 | And it fizzled. |
| 1:43.1 | Today on the show, Chris tells us the story of this bank, |
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