When True Crime Becomes A Place You Can Visit

Truer Crime

Celisia Stanton

True Crime

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

True crime is usually something we consume at a distance, through headlines, documentaries, podcasts. But what happens when those stories are tied to real places you can stand in front of? In this bonus episode, I’m joined by Adam Paul Levine, the founder of Graveline Tours, a Los Angeles–based company that takes people through the city’s most infamous crime scenes in restored vintage funeral limousines. On its surface, true crime tourism can feel unsettling. But Adam and I quickly find ourselves asking the same questions: why are we drawn to these stories in the first place? What responsibility do storytellers have to victims and their families? And where is the line between education, empathy, and exploitation? Much of our conversation centers on the Menendez brothers case, from the media’s fixation on sexuality and spectacle, to the cultural moment that shaped the trials, to the ripple effects of the O.J. Simpson case on their fate. We talk about how narratives are built, distorted, and remembered and how those narratives still carry real consequences today. Want early access to every episode, all at once? Tenderfoot+ subscribers get the full case at the start of each month—plus ad-free listening and exclusive content from over 30 shows. Sign up at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tenderfootplus.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find all action items, sources, and resources in the show notes at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠truercrimepodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Keep up with us through our ⁠⁠⁠Truer Crime Substack Newsletter⁠⁠⁠. Follow @truercrimepod on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow me @celisiastanton on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Sign up for my weekly newsletter, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sincerely, Celisia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:04.8	Hi friends.
1:05.7	I am so excited to share this new episode of True A Crime with you.
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1:36.2	Hi, friends. Before we get started today, I want to share a brief note. Today's interview was recorded before the killing of Renee Nicole Good and before the violence and resistance that
1:41.2	have unfolded in my hometown of Minneapolis since then.
1:50.2	I wanted to name that up front because this moment is significant. It matters.
1:56.3	And now today's conversation exists alongside something much closer to home for me.
2:02.9	Honestly, it is really hard to explain what it feels like to live here right now.
2:12.9	There's a lot of grief and fear, but also there's this deep sense of care for one another.
2:18.9	It is impossible for me to overstate the pride that I have in my community right now.
2:26.0	But, you know, I feel a lot of sadness for what's happening, for the loss that brought us to this moment.
2:31.5	And so all those emotions are kind of sitting side by side for me right now as we release this episode.
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