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Christian Podcast for Men | Real Men Connect

When to Walk Away from Toxic People (EP:1007)

Christian Podcast for Men | Real Men Connect

Dr. Joe Martin

Religion & Spirituality, Kids & Family, Christianity, Parenting

4.9881 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Gary Thomas is a writer-in-residence at Second Baptist Church in Houston, Texas, and an adjunct faculty member teaching on spiritual formation at Western Seminary in Portland, Oregon, and Houston Theological Seminary in Houston, Texas.

He is the author of nineteen books including the highly popular Sacred Marriage, also Sacred Pathways, Cherish, Sacred Parenting, and the Gold Medallion Award-winning Authentic Faith. 

Gary has a master's degree from Regent College, where he studied under Dr. J.I. Packer, and was awarded an honorary doctorate in divinity from Western Seminary. Gary has spoken in forty-nine states and ten different countries. He has appeared numerous times on various national radio and television programs, including CBN, Focus on the family. and Family Life Today. 

To contact Gary or to get a copy of his book (When to Walk Away: Finding Freedom from Toxic People), just go to his website: http://www.GaryThomas.com 

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0:00.0

If you only had 24 hours to live and you had to teach your son or sons, everything you learned about being a man, from life to love, money to marriage, people to porn, and everything in between, what lessons would you teach him?

0:14.0

Well, when my son was only 12 years old, I wrote a book for him I wanted to leave behind as my legacy.

0:19.0

It's called Are You the Man? Two hundred and one

0:21.7

lessons I wish my dad would have taught me. And I squeezed all of those lessons on manhood into just

0:27.1

124 pages. The lessons I share in this book not only come from my successes in life, but many of them

0:33.3

also come from my painful and even shameful failures, including divorce, abuse, addiction,

0:39.8

adultery, and abandonment, just to name a few. You can read and learn in less than two hours

0:44.8

what it took me over 30 plus years to learn the hard way. So just go over to are you theman.com

0:50.5

and get your copy today. That's are you the man.com.

0:56.4

Trust me, your wife and children will thank you for it later.

1:02.1

In my book, Are You the Man,

1:04.4

201 lessons I wish my dad would have taught me.

1:05.8

On page 99, I write,

1:08.7

when it comes to dealing with questionable friendships in your life,

1:10.2

always ask yourself,

1:10.9

is what I'm holding on to really worth keeping?

1:14.7

And if you need help making a decision on what relationships to hold on to and which ones to let go of,

1:19.5

then check out my interview with bestselling author, adjunct professor, and ministry leader,

1:23.2

the incomparable Gary Thomas, as he talks to me about his latest book, When to Walk Away,

1:29.1

Finding Freedom from Toxic People. Get ready to get your mind blown as he teaches us how to deal

1:34.0

with toxic people the way Jesus did and how we can apply the same principles in our everyday lives.

1:39.5

So if you've been having trouble getting along with the people God called you to love,

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