Welcome to Rates and Beryls. It is Thursday, September 15th, a three show Thursday for me. Derek Van Riper

Inoceris here with you on this episode. We're going to take a look at when we could realistically

give up on a player, young players that have struggled to make a positive impact at the plate

up to, you know, maybe 400, 500 plate appearances combined

in their big league career.

You need to see something.

So we'll dig into some players that have underperformed and try to set some expectations

for the future.

The sticky stuff is back.

Eno wrote about that recently.

So we'll discuss that piece just a little bit.

We'll talk about some of the rule changes that actually went into effect after our episode from last Thursday, an important correction coming as far as

how we were describing the tempo leader board as well. I noticed a few things while preparing for

23 drafts already with some position eligibility that we should probably discuss. And I think

there's a Christopher Morel question that we should probably answer.

Interesting player.

Played shortstop the other day.

Playing them all over right now.

But we begin on a slightly negative note, when can we realistically give up on a player?

The two names that inspired this question are Jared Kalnick and Joe Adele. And on a positive note, at least Joe Adele is getting chances to play in the big leagues right now, whereas Jared Kelnick is finishing his season in Tacoma. He did not come up and join the Mariners when rosters expanded at the beginning of September. They went with Taylor Trimell instead. So this is a common problem. You have these top prospects that come up, they get sent down,

they come up, they get sent down. They don't deliver on high expectations right away,

but they're still very young for the level. When can we start to say,

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