Join Hoda Kottby for a brand new season of her podcast Making Space.

For season 5, I am making space to talk to people who are providing a sense of hope and

inspiration when life changes course.

Uplifting conversations with inspiring individuals like NFL legend Drew Breeze,

singer-songwriter Ziggy Marley, and today show co-anchor Savannah Guthrie as you have never heard her before.

I found faith more viscerally not because the bad thing didn't happen but because it did.

I promise you like me believe these conversations with

some wisdom for your own journey, empowered and inspired to make space in your own

life. New episodes of making space with Hodaocopy are released every Wednesday.

Listen now, wherever you get your podcasts.

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When you get really discouraged about the world and the state of the world, for me that really indicates that you could benefit from a different perspective and a higher perspective and that's why my faith is so important to me.

Welcome to the Jesus Calling podcast.

Sometimes our dreams seem so far-fetched that even we don't believe we'll ever achieve them. But in Romans 12-2 it says,

do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

When we train ourselves to look for the good, to see God's opportunities around every corner,

we'll find that the life of our dreams isn't so far away after all.

As we celebrate our 400th episode of the Jesus Calling podcast, we'll hear from Savannah

Guthrie and John Tesh, who both had unconventional and unexpected breakthroughs into television.

Savannah, co-anchor of the Today Show on NBC, shares how her greatest dream of being a journalist

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