When the World Outlawed War

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🗓️ 26 July 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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In August 1928, signatories from France, the United States and Germany signed a treaty outlawing war. This so-called Kellogg-Briand Pact was soon signed by almost every state. Yet, in the century since, countless wars have been started ... and not all of them finished. To find out whether the pact has had any impact on international relations since its inception, James speaks to Professor Oona Hathaway from Yale University. Oona and her colleague Scott Shapiro are the authors of ‘The Internationalists: How a Radical Plan to Outlaw War Remade the World’.

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0:00.0	Hello everyone welcome back to the history hit warfare podcast I'm your host James Rogers and in this episode
0:04.8	we're looking back at a period in history where war was actually outlawed between nation states
0:11.1	this is an odd one for me because I was always told
0:13.4	that there is one guarantee in all of human history and that is that there will
0:16.8	always be another war. No matter how tragic that may be that is the nature of the international system.
0:25.2	However, if you look back through history you'll see that there is a short period in time
0:30.0	when the Kellogg-Bry impact was put into action named after US Secretary of State
0:36.5	Frank Kellogg and French Foreign Minister Aristide Briand when they use that moment
0:42.1	post-World War a moment of mourning and suffering but also
0:46.0	rebuilding and a hope for ambitious change to ensure that states promised not to use war to resolve disputes or conflicts of whatever
0:56.5	nature or of whatever origin they may be. To take us through this remarkable history and to explain
1:03.7	explain how the Kellogg-Bry impact continues to influence war and peace today.
1:08.0	We have the brilliant Professor Honor Hathaway from Yale University.
1:12.1	Honor is the author of the internationalists,
1:14.0	how a radical plan to outlaw war remade the world,
1:17.0	along with Scott J. Shapiro,
1:19.0	and she was previously the Special Counsel
1:22.0	to the General Counsel at the US Department of Defense during the Obama administration.
1:27.0	So there is truly no one better place to take us through this history and to show us why it is perhaps now more important than ever to learn from the
1:36.0	mistakes and the successes of the Kellogg Briand Pact.
1:40.4	Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Hi owner, thanks so much for coming on the History Hit Warfare Podcast. How are you doing today?
2:01.0	I'm great, thanks. How are you? I'm good. Yeah, I'm actually
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