When The World Expects Hate, A Palestinian and An Israeli Choose Peace

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4.2 • 726 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Aziz Abu Sarah, who is Palestinian, and Maoz Inon, who is Israeli, have both lost family to the conflict in the Middle East. They are also both peacebuilders who say they “forged a bond of brotherhood when the world expected us to hate each other.” We talk to them about their relationship and their vision for a culture of dialogue and forgiveness. Their new book is “The Future Is Peace: A Shared Journey Across the Holy Land.” Guests: Aziz Abu Sarah, co-author, "The Future Is Peace: A Shared Journey Across the Holy Land” Maoz Inon, co-author, "The Future Is Peace: A Shared Journey Across the Holy Land” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:36.9	Welcome to Forum. I'm Mina Kim. For many, the horrific Hamas-led attacks in Israel on October 7th,
0:44.1	and the appalling devastation of Israel's war on Gaza have brought nightmares, rage, and hardened stances.
0:51.7	For two men, an Israeli and a Palestinian, it has brought them together
0:56.2	like brothers. Mao Zinan lost his parents on October 7. Years earlier, Aziz Abu Sara lost his
1:03.5	brother to Israeli soldier violence. Together they have written a new book, detailing their
1:08.6	extraordinary friendship, and how and why they've rejected vengeance.
1:13.2	It's called The Future is Peace, and Aziz and Moaz are co-CEOs of Interact International, a non-profit
1:19.3	dedicated to Middle East peace. Maoz, welcome to forum.
1:23.9	Thank you, Mina. It's great to be with you.
1:25.7	I appreciate your being here. Aziz, welcome to you. Thank you, thank you. We's great to be with you. I appreciate your being here. Aziz, welcome to you.
1:28.3	Thank you, thank you. We are happy to be with you.
1:31.3	You've both lost family to the conflict, as I mentioned.
1:35.3	Aziz, you were 10 when your older brother Tessier died.
1:39.3	What happened?
1:41.3	Yeah, I grew up in Jerusalem.
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