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Planet Money

When The U.S. Paid Off The Entire National Debt (Classic)

Planet Money

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Business, News

4.629.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2021

⏱️ 19 minutes

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There was one time the U.S. federal government stopped borrowing and paid off every penny of national debt. It did not end well. | Subscribe to our weekly newsletter here.

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0:00.0

This is Planet Money from NPR.

0:07.0

Hello and welcome to Planet Money, I'm Alexi Horowitz-Gazzy.

0:10.0

Yesterday, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen sat down in front of members of Congress in Washington,

0:15.0

and she said something that sounded pretty scary.

0:19.0

She said if Congress doesn't vote to raise the debt ceiling, the U.S. government will run out of money by October 18th.

0:26.0

That's right, in less than three weeks, America would go effectively broke if Congress didn't give permission for more government borrowing.

0:33.0

More debt.

0:35.0

This would be the first time in its history the U.S. Treasury would not be able to pay its bills.

0:40.0

It would default.

0:42.0

And the result, Yellen said, if that did happen, would likely be another financial crisis.

0:47.0

All of which raises a couple of very important questions.

0:50.0

What exactly is the debt ceiling?

0:53.0

And why does the U.S. government have to keep raising it or risk financial collapse?

0:58.0

So, we're pulling today's episode from the vault about a time when America had no debt, paid it all off.

1:04.0

And little spoiler? Government debt isn't necessarily a bad thing.

1:09.0

This episode originally ran in 2011 and was reported by Robert Smith and Adam Davidson.

1:14.0

Coming up after the break.

1:16.0

First up, really basic question.

1:24.0

What exactly is the national debt?

1:27.0

It's key to not think of it as one thing.

1:30.0

Because it's actually a bunch of promises.

1:32.0

It's millions and millions of specific promises that the government has made to specific people.

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