Frankly, I think we're way ahead of ourselves, if you want to know the truth.

We've done too good a job because every time we go out with 25 million tests, you're going

to find more people.

So then they say, oh, we have more cases in the United States.

The reason we have more cases because we do more testing than any other country by far.

The Attorney General was taking the lead on this matter. He did come to the President and report to him when Mr. Berman decided not to leave. And at that point is when the President agreed with the decision of the Attorney General and to fire Mr. Berman and to promote Mr. Clayton. So he was involved in it then? He was involved in the sign-off capacity he was not a g bar was leading

the way but in a sign-off capacity yes the president was hey everybody welcome to the mccrigg

podcast i'm your co-host jared yates sexton as always i'm here with my loyal co-host nick

houseman uh we're coming in this week on the heels of, I mean, what can only

be called a disappointing Donald Trump rally, the beginning of the Trump 2020 campaign in Tulsa,

Oklahoma, which saw Donald Trump speaking to, I don't know, maybe a half full arena,

rambling on for many, many, many minutes about his ability to walk down ramps

and drink water from a glass, which we need to talk about.

But yeah, it certainly felt like not just a loss, but like a demoralizing moment in Donald Trump's political career.

What do you make of it, Nick?

You know, it's funny because they're trying to explain how this all happened.

And there was this whole movement about the TikTok teens who were registering a lot and blowing the numbers up, which I think is true.

I think that actually does have an effect, but it doesn't really explain why there weren't

a lot more people there because there was unlimited RSVPs. So if these diehard Trumpists

wanted to go, they could have gone and they would have been part of the whole outdoor area

they wanted to. So I do feel like the, you know have gone, and they would have been part of the whole outdoor area they wanted to.

So I do feel like the warnings about COVID and the feelings that we have, aside from whatever

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