When the President Sues the Government He Controls
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🗓️ 9 June 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone. Welcome to the Kato podcast. I'm Molly Nixon's senior fellow and executive power here at the Kato Institute. |
| 0:12.0 | This is Dan Greenberg. I'm also senior legal fellow at Kato, and I'm coming to you from Kato's podcast studio. |
| 0:18.1 | And I'm Tad de Haven. I'm a policy analyst in general economics. |
| 0:23.0 | Today we are going to be talking about the anti-weaponization fund, which came out of a settlement |
| 0:28.5 | of President Donald Trump's lawsuit brought in his personal capacity against the IRS in connection |
| 0:33.9 | with an IRS contractor's unlawful disclosure of his private tax information. |
| 0:39.0 | What is the fund? How would it work? Is it legal? And is it now dead? And if so, should we still be |
| 0:46.8 | concerned about it? And to start, let's go to TAD. And maybe you could set some background here. What is the anti-weaponization fund and what does it do? |
| 0:58.3 | So the anti-weaponization fund is a rather unique agreement that was struck between the president's |
| 1:08.2 | Justice Department in regards to a lawsuit, a $10 billion lawsuit that the president |
| 1:16.0 | has pursued on the basis that his tax returns were improperly released and therefore |
| 1:24.9 | he deserves redress. They decided the administration that instead of pursuing |
| 1:31.0 | actual money back for themselves, for their family, for the Trump organization, that instead |
| 1:37.1 | they would create a giant fund, this fund being used to pay out those who bring claims that they were victims of weaponization by the government. |
| 1:50.8 | The price tag is $1.766 billion. |
| 1:56.5 | The administration says that this number was arrived at on the basis of what they calculated to be the volume of claims that they'd be paying out. |
| 2:06.4 | But of course, 1.776 also happens to match 1776, which points to some sort of effort to paint this as in conjunction with our nation's founding. |
| 2:20.9 | Probably not, but this is also part of a longer trend, a hallmark of this administration, |
| 2:28.2 | where the president repeatedly seeks to have slush funds created for them. This goes back to the beginning of the |
| 2:36.6 | administration with the president desiring a giant federal investment fund made up with taxpayer |
| 2:43.3 | money, that he himself would be allowed to invest across the United States. That has started to |
| 2:50.3 | play out over the course of the last year with the |
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