Lacemaking is working in what we call the built environment.

So infrastructure areas, these could be parks, these could be streets.

It could even be, this is going to sound weird, but things in the air

that you are taking a space and you're making a place out of it.

So you're activating it in some way.

And placemaking does not have to be for political purposes.

Pop-up markets are a good example of placemaking.

You have a vacant parking lot.

They throw a pop-up Christmas fare in it.

And that's making place.

It's taking a space and making a place.

Little free libraries are an example.

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So on today's show, we're going to talk about the hurricane and the tragic loss of our soldiers in Kabul

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