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Radio and grim and mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion advised. Welcome to a very special

episode of Noble Blood. I'm Dana Schwartz and I'm joined by Caroline Halliman,

who's the digital director of town and country and the author of the new book,

The Kennedys and the Windsors, which is out next week, available for pre-order now.

It is a fascinating book, super readable, super fun, like the best sort of historical gossip about these two families that are

a global obsession. Caroline, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. Thank you so much for

having me. I'm so excited to talk to you today. My first question is, what drew you to a book

focused on these two families in particular?

Sure. So I, as the digital director at Town and Country, I have covered both of these

families for just about 10 years now. So I came into writing this book with kind of a deep

background on both of them.

But what really kind of sparked the idea to write a book was when Prince William announced

that he was bringing his Earthshot Prize, which is his big environmental initiative to Boston.

And that was in the second year of the prize.

And he talked a lot about how President Kennedy's moon shot and his kind of ambition

to go to the moon and his declaration that we would do that within 10 years was really

an inspiration and a driving force for Williams' big project.

And I just started thinking about that. And I was like, that's so

interesting because it was really Prince William kind of leaning on the Kennedy iconography and

the Kennedy mythology and kind of like the language of the Kennedys to launch his big project on a

global scale, to bring that to America. And I was like, that is just, it just felt like a reversal of the whole, like, the Kennedys

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