Welcome to The Investigation. I'm Chris Vlasto. Cura's on assignment, but I'm very happy to have my friend and colleague Cecilia Vega here.

Hi. It's really strange for me because last week we had Lanny Davis and this week we have John Podesta.

So it's two former Clinton advisors who I battled 25 years ago.

John's already laughing.

He's already laughing because actually I tell everyone is that... All my hatred for Chris was transposed through Lanny.

Yeah, through Lanny.

But what was funny is all the same characters from 25 years ago just never leave.

They're all here again on the Trump side.

Washington, baby.

But it's an amazing, John, one question before Cecilia talks about you, because I knew you

when you were a chief of staff in the White House and a senior

advisor to Clinton for all those years. And it was a battle between the White House and even the

reporters in Congress back then. Now I look at this Trump White House. I said last week that this

is like on steroids. But I think the big difference is President Clinton had advisors do it.

Like, you know, the attacks or leaks or et cetera.

This president does it all himself.

And is that the crazy thing?

Well, I don't think any of us ever describe the media as the enemies of the people

or incited violence against the media at the rallies. Look, we had a contentious relationship

during those days, but I think we handle it fairly and tried to be on a level. And I think

one of the things that Lanny was known for was always advising just

get the story out. And I think that's what we were trying to do. But it was, you know,

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