Hello everybody and welcome back to RevLeft Radio.

On today's episode, I am completing the hat trick.

I've had on JT and I've had on Hakeem from the D program and from YouTube and now it

is time to have on you Gopnik.

So this is long overdue but this is a fascinating conversation about mostly about Yugoslavia

and the Balkans but also about perceptions of US politics, his time in the United States,

his political development.

We touch on the Russia Ukraine conflict and a bunch of other shit.

It's really fun and you Gopnik is a hilarious and very entertaining person politics aside.

So he does an amazing job at summarizing complex Yugoslavian history at the same time that

he's very just off the cuff, funny as fuck and very entertaining.

Really solid comrade in person and this is a wide-ranging conversation.

So yeah if you like this show definitely check out the other ones with JT and Hakeem.

They all do a show together called the Deep Program which you can find on any podcast

app which is really cool and they each have their individual YouTube channels as well.

It's doing a lot of great work on political education in their own various unique ways.

They all kind of do it in their own specific way that I think is very cool and when they

all come together it's very fun as well.

This conversation is going to be focused just on me and you Gopnik talking about a lot

of shit but centered mostly on Yugoslavia what happened in the 90s after his dissolution,

his thoughts on Tito and much more.

And before we get into the show as always if you like what we do here at RevLeft Radio

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