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Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

When the Autopilot Switched Off

Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

Pushkin Industries

History, Society & Culture

4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

An airline captain thought he was giving his children a harmless thrill by letting them "fly" his packed airplane - the young cockpit visitors weren't really in control... the autopilot was doing the real flying. Until it wasn't. 

Do safety features actually lull us into a false sense of security - tempting us to take greater risks than we otherwise would?

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0:00.0

Pushkin

0:14.0

There are 63 passengers on board flight 593.

0:19.0

Some drinking beer, some are asleep, others are bored.

0:24.0

There are no smartphones to play with because this is 1994.

0:29.0

They left Moscow for time zones ago. Hong Kong is still several hours away.

0:36.0

The flight is long. Time goes slowly.

0:41.0

It's dark outside and even if it wasn't, there wouldn't be much to look at.

0:46.0

The Airbus A310 is inching its way over the vast expanse of sudden Siberia.

0:53.0

Grasslands and forests and hills.

0:56.0

To the south lies Kazakhstan, ahead Mongolia.

1:01.0

The weather is calm, visibility is good, the plane is on autopilot.

1:06.0

And the captain has gone back to the cabin for a snooze.

1:10.0

An off duty pilot Vladimir Makodov is travelling as a passenger.

1:16.0

He's ambled to the cockpit to pass the time with his aeroflot colleagues,

1:21.0

relief captain Yaroslav Kodinsky and first officer Igor Piskarev.

1:26.0

And he's brought guests, Kodinsky's two teenage children.

1:31.0

In this pre-911 era, attitudes to cockpit security were more relaxed.

1:37.0

The kids have got three flights, a perk of their dad's job.

1:41.0

And he's taking them to see Hong Kong. It's their first international journey.

1:47.0

Kodinsky, Piskarev and Makodov shoot the breeze for a while, then Kodinsky turns to his daughter.

1:54.0

Come and sit here now in my seat. Would you like that?

1:57.0

13-year-old Yarna takes his place at the controls alongside Copilot Piskarev.

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