Her mom's reply to her was, don't ever make a life decision while you're sick. Okay, wait until you get

better. Wait until you feel good. And then you can, in your head's clear and you can think about this.

And he said right now, we've been our culture and our society has been sick. We've been locked inside for most of the year.

We've been dealing with social problems, political anxiety,

all this kind of stuff. Our society isn't like, we wouldn't say it's healthy right now,

would we? Right. Not thriving in the way that. Not thriving, not helping. There's a lot of

aggravation. People have anxiety. I mean, you just sent me that link to how to deal with

anxiety, right? And he said, I know so many people right now in their in this, their 40s age,

late 30s, early 40s who are like shifting gears, wanting to shift career, wanting to move on to

something else. And he said, wait till we get through this fog that we're in before you make any

life decisions. And I thought that was like, hello everybody and welcome to three point

perspective, the podcast about illustration, how to do it, how to make a living at it,

how to make an impact in the world with your art. I'm Jake Parker. I'm Lee White. And I'm Will Terry, and all three of us are professional illustrators. We've all been working for the last 25 to 30 years.

We've worked with just about every major publisher and publication in the business. And we've

published somewhere between 50 and 100 books between us.

We've all taught illustration at the university.

Each week we pick a fascinating topic on illustration and we battle it out.

Sometimes we agree.

Sometimes we argue, but each time you're going to learn something brand new.

Cool.

Well, let's get right down into it, fellas.

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