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When Should I Leave My Church?

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2013

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

Pastor John describes marks of a healthy church and the combination of factors that may suggest it’s time to leave.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Over the months, we've had a steady stream of emails, probably over 50 by now, all on the

0:09.2

question of discerning when it's time to leave a certain church.

0:12.7

So many scenarios factor into a decision like this, and it makes it really hard, I know

0:16.4

to answer the question with much specificity in a podcast like this, but maybe you can

0:20.1

put some categories out there, Pastor John, for listeners, what are some general guidelines

0:24.4

or broad categories you would introduce for someone who is asking whether it's time

0:28.4

to leave a local church?

0:30.4

One of the reasons that it's difficult is because we don't find explicit instances of

0:39.4

this in the New Testament, and the reason we don't is because the letters of the New Testament

0:46.2

are written to one church in a city, not several churches in the city, among which Christians

0:55.0

are circulating.

0:57.1

It treats the church in Corinth, or Thessalonica, or Philippians, as one church in the city,

1:04.2

and the letters that are written to several churches, those churches are in different cities.

1:09.0

And so it's not about people moving from one to the other unless they're moving in the

1:13.0

city.

1:14.0

So that's the reason the Bible is so silent.

1:18.5

The development of the church hasn't gotten to the point yet where there is unbelievable

1:23.7

multiplicity of local churches to choose from in any locale.

1:28.3

So the way I think we go about answering the question is by asking what the church

1:32.9

is so that you can test, is the church being the church here, or is it defective to

1:40.1

a degree that I should go to another one?

1:43.4

And the four things that I would mark as defining what the church is, number one, it's

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