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When religious liberty conflicts with LGBT rights, who wins?

We the People

National Constitution Center

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4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2015

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Kristina Arriaga of the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty and Greg Lipper of Americans United for Separation of Church and State discuss the Kim Davis saga and two competing bills in Congress.

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0:00.0

I'm Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, and welcome to We the People, a weekly show of constitutional debate.

0:08.0

The National Constitution Center is the only institution in America chartered by Congress to disseminate information

0:14.7

about the U.S. Constitution on a nonpartisan basis.

0:18.9

And today we take up the question of the week, if not the month or the year, the Constitution and religion. the

0:25.0

the week, if not the month or the year, the Constitution and religious liberty.

0:26.0

This week, Pope Francis makes his first visit to the United States,

0:30.0

which includes a concluding stop in Philadelphia, where he will give an address at Abraham

0:35.6

Lincoln's Gettysburg podium in front of Independence Hall right across from the National

0:40.2

Constitution Center.

0:41.8

The Pope arrives at a time when the

0:43.2

constitutional debate about the origins and meaning of religious liberty in the

0:46.6

United States has reached a fever pitch. As we discussed on this show a few weeks

0:51.4

ago, there are currently several lawsuits

0:53.4

challenging the Affordable Care Act's contraception mandate and recently the

0:58.2

Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of religious objectors setting up a circuit split and increasing the likelihood

1:04.4

that the Supreme Court will consider the issue soon.

1:07.7

Today we focus on the aftermath of the Supreme Court's ruling this summer in the Obergefeld

1:12.1

case, which recognized a right to marry for same-sex

1:14.8

couples. Our listeners of course are familiar with the story of Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis

1:20.1

who was briefly jailed for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples, and there's also

1:24.7

been movement in Congress.

1:26.4

Some Republicans have introduced the First Amendment Defense Act, which would prohibit the

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