Hello and welcome back to the Bill Bennett show thoughtful conversation

about the news of the day and expose the existential threats to America. Internal

threat today we're going to talk to Heather Macdonald. Heather is the

Thomas W Smith fellow at the Manhattan Institute, contributing editor of City Journal,

which is a great journal. She's also the author of the book, When Race Trump's

merit, how the pursuit of equity sacrifices excellence, destroys beauty and

threatens lives. That's the book we're going to be talking about today

and our issues and arguments in that book.

I just want to say there's a little hole in my life

where Nick Saban used to be. I was concerned about you actually and I thought about

texting but I figured you needed space to process how you felt. Took me a few days to get over it.

Alabama football coach for those who don't have any idea.

But I don't know.

I don't know what to be like without him.

I mean, he's the greatest ever, clearly.

And interesting guy to watch different presence

on the field from at a certain authority

that I think very few other coaches have. They're looking for a

replacement by the time you hear this they may have one. I hope it's the

Washington coach I think he's he's the he's the best replacement.

Okay.

Because he's without guile and from Sioux City.

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