4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 25 February 2019
⏱️ 68 minutes
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A deeply vulnerable and vital conversation between Mike Erre and theologian and Bible translator Bonnie Lewis around abortion, loss, and what it means to truly be pro-life. This episode goes far beyond politics, diving into Bonnie’s personal story of stillbirth, grief, and theological reflection. Together, Mike and Bonnie challenge simplistic narratives and offer a broader, more compassionate lens on abortion—one rooted in a gospel that centers dignity, healing, and community over condemnation.
Key Takeaways:
• Abortion is Not Just a Political Issue – Reframing our understanding by centering the stories of women and the complexity of their experiences.
• The Power of Maternal Instinct – How Bonnie’s experience affirmed the critical importance of listening to women’s deeply intuitive connection with their bodies and unborn children.
• Pro-Life Is Pro-Woman – A call to expand the pro-life conversation to include emotional, mental, and spiritual care for mothers at all stages—before, during, and after pregnancy.
• Theological Reflection on Grief and Choice – How Bonnie’s journey has reshaped her theology of life, death, soul, and the deeply embodied reality of carrying and losing a child.
• Can Protest Do Harm? – A nuanced examination of whether shaming women at abortion clinics aligns with the way of Jesus, and how we miss the mark when we separate ends from means.
• Birth Control, Premarital Sex, and Wisdom – Pushing past purity culture binaries to ask deeper questions about harm, safety, and human flourishing in a broken sexual culture.
Quotes Worth Sharing:
• “Being pro-life should include being pro-woman. You can't care for the baby and ignore the mother.”
• “There’s a difference between worry and knowing. We need to trust women when they say something is wrong.”
• “If Jesus calls us to love and not condemn, then louder protests that bring shame might not be the way.”
From raw testimony to sharp theological critique, this episode embodies the Voxology ethos: courageously naming the tension between grace and truth, nuance and conviction.
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0:00.0 | Gosh, what if someone came into our churches or into our communities and said, I had an abortion. |
0:15.0 | And we weren't saying, why, what happened? |
0:18.0 | And we just said, like, I see you, and loved her and hugged her and walked with her |
0:22.7 | in her grief. I think we forget that she's even healing anything. |
0:31.1 | Hey everybody, Mike Erie here. Welcome to the Vox Podcast. So glad you're tuning in. And as always, we're so grateful to be part of your life and your journey. |
0:40.5 | I'm joined by my dear friend Bonnie Lewis live from Texas. |
0:45.3 | Hello, Bonnie. |
0:45.9 | Hello. |
0:46.8 | Hi, guys. |
0:47.5 | How are you? |
0:48.4 | Oh, I'm good. |
0:50.0 | Are you talking to me in the Trinity at this point? |
0:52.1 | No, I was talking to the internet. |
0:53.3 | I want to pretend that they're answering back in their car. |
0:56.3 | You always say hello internet. |
0:58.0 | But I did feel weird. |
0:59.0 | I said, guys, not y'all. |
1:00.7 | Yeah, yeah. |
1:01.7 | That's definitely a y'all space, not a guy space. |
1:05.0 | Exactly. |
1:06.4 | Although, although my son watches quite a bit of YouTube because he's, he's doing a music sort of career thing. |
1:16.0 | It's really kind of awesome. |
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