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The Kevin Miller Podcast

When Positivity Is Not A Help w/ Marriage & Family Therapist Whitney Goodman

The Kevin Miller Podcast

Kevin Miller

Nutrition, Relationships, Mental Health, Education, Social Sciences, Science, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality, Medicine, Life Sciences, How To

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

I seem to be a natural optimist. And as the former host of The Ziglar Show podcast, greatly appreciate Zig Ziglar’s famous quote, “Positive thinking won't let you do anything, but it will let you do everything better than negative thinking will.” That said, I now realize I spent a lot of my life as a father, husband, and friend, not always connecting with people when they were hurting or struggling. Today I strive to just be with people. Witness them. And be curious. When they are struggling, I don’t try to lift them up with positivity, or pull them further down by fanning the flames of their struggle. Someone who helped me with this is Whitney Goodman. Whitney is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist who has taken on our concept of positivity and has an instagram following of well over half a million followers who are finding great help from her guidance and encouragement that life is well worth living, but treating it as a continual self-improvement project and bypassing our true feelings doesn’t leave room for a full, quality life. I understand now, that jumping from a negative experience right to positivity can rob us from the growth, learning, and peace we find in between. Whitney took her years of work as a therapist studying cultural positivity and wrote the book, “TOXIC POSITIVITY: KEEPING IT REAL IN A WORLD OBSESSED WITH BEING HAPPY.” The book is a dive into how we’ve distorted the concept of positivity, and how we can better handle the hard things in life and ultimately acknowledge them, but not be overwhelmed and controlled by them. Find Whitney Goodman at www.sitwithwhit.com. Sign up for your $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to start your free trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller. This is a podcast for your personal evolution. In this episode,

0:07.0

when positivity is not a help, I seem to be a natural optimist. As the former host of

0:14.9

The Ziegler Show podcast, I greatly appreciate Zig Zigler's famous quote, positive thinking won't let you do anything,

0:22.7

but it'll let you do everything better than negative thinking will.

0:26.5

That said, I now realize I spent a lot of my life as a father, a husband, a friend,

0:32.0

not always connecting with people when they were hurting or struggling.

0:36.5

Today, I just strive to be with people, witness them,

0:41.5

and be curious. When they're struggling, I don't try to lift them up with positivity right away,

0:47.0

nor pull them further down by fanning the flames of their struggle. And someone who helped me

0:52.3

with this concept is Whitney Goodman. Whitney is a licensed

0:56.4

marriage and family therapist who's taken on our concept of positivity. She's got an Instagram

1:01.9

following over I think half a million followers now who are finding great help from her

1:07.4

guidance and encouragement that life is well worth living, but treating it as this

1:12.3

continual self-improvement project and bypassing our true feelings doesn't leave room for a

1:17.4

full quality life. I understand now, or continue to understand, that jumping from a negative

1:23.4

experience right to positivity can rob us, me, from growth and learning and peace that

1:29.8

we can find in the in-between. Whitney took her years of work as a therapist studying cultural

1:36.0

positivity and she wrote a book called Toxic Positivity, keeping it real in a world obsessed

1:41.5

with being happy. The book is a dive into how we've distorted the

1:46.7

concept of positivity and how we can better handle the hard things in life and ultimately

1:51.2

acknowledge them, but not be overwhelmed and controlled by them either. You can find Whitney Goodman

1:58.2

at sit with wit, w-H-it.com. You can find her online and Instagram and

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