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Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

When Parakeets Plundered New York

Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

Pushkin Industries

History, Society & Culture

4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Cautionary Conversation: An invasive parakeet species began spreading in New York City - and the government decided to kill every last bird. Tim Harford is joined by Ben Naddaff-Hafrey, host of The Last Archive, to talk about the great parakeet panic of the 1970s and a history of anxieties about population growth.

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0:00.0

Pushkin

0:07.0

It's nice to have visitors from time to time, especially cute visitors.

0:15.0

So it was in America in the 1950s.

0:17.9

Who wouldn't want an adorable little parakeet for a pet?

0:22.2

In Argentina, the parakeet was an agricultural pest, rats with gaudy wings, brightly feathered,

0:29.1

capturing locusts.

0:30.7

The Argentines were happy to ship them up north as an exotic pet.

0:35.2

And for a while, America was happy to receive those parakeets.

0:39.7

Except parakeets can be gratingly annoying, all that talking and talking, it's cute until

0:47.5

it isn't.

0:49.0

And so people started releasing them into the wild.

0:53.5

And then in 1969, catastrophe.

0:58.0

A shipping crate fell apart at JFK Airport, hundreds of parakeets escaped, maybe thousands,

1:04.4

maybe.

1:06.0

Everyone could see what would happen next.

1:08.0

It would breed, and breed, and soon there would be parakeets everywhere, marauding and

1:14.1

pillaging like cute little flying Vikings.

1:18.0

I'm Tim Harford, and this is a special cautionary conversation about the great parakeet panic.

1:28.0

Today, our cautionary conversation is with Ben Nadaf Haffrey, the long-time producer

1:53.1

and the new host and writer of our sister podcast, The Last Archive.

1:57.2

Hello, Ben.

1:58.2

Hey, Tim.

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