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Have you ever had a moment when you've looked at your kids and they're fighting? And you've

stepped back and you just thought, I'm doing this wrong. My kids don't like each other.

My kids are fighting all the time. I'm completing that other failure. If you have felt that way,

you're not alone. We want to encourage you today. My name is Heidi St. John, and I'm here

with Dermond Abwelson, and you have found the Heidi St. John podcast, and I hope to encourage

you today with a little bit of perspective on raising children. And we're not going to

encourage you to raise children who don't fight. I just want to encourage you right now.

And just let you know that we're not here to tell you that we've got it all together. But

rather to kind of give you some tools and tips so you can help your kids develop friendships

with each other. I will never forget Duran, I don't know if you've had this experience.

I'm sure you have since you have eight kids and a bunch of them are boys. Girls typically

don't tend to be real physical with each other when they fight. They tend to be like

caddy. It's sort of emotional and they play head games. But my husband, when we lived

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