When money went rogue: banking in 19th-century frontier America
The Story of Money
Manuela Saragosa
4.4 • 397 Ratings
🗓️ 6 May 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
In 19th-century America almost anyone could print their own money – and many did. One of the most notable figures to take this up was a man named James Brown, a charismatic conman who built a fortune producing fake banknotes. In this episode of The Story of Money, Stephen Mihm, a professor of history at the University of Georgia, introduces hosts Gillian Tett and Robin Wigglesworth to “the hardest working man in counterfeiting”. They discuss the parallels between banking in the Wild West and the advent of cryptocurrencies today, and the role trust plays in all financial systems.
Further reading:
A Nation of Counterfeiters: Capitalists, Con Men, and the Making of the United States, by Stephen Mihm (2007)
The Square and Tower: Networks, Hierarchies and the Struggle for Global Power, by Niall Ferguson (2018)
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Hosts: Gillian Tett and Robin Wigglesworth
Guest: Stephen Mihm
Producer: Lulu Smyth
Senior Producer: Michela Tindera and Laurence Knight
Executive Producers: Flo Phillips and Manuela Saragosa
Original music: Breen Turner
Broadcast engineers: Bianca Wakeman and Petros Giuompasis
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FT Global Head of Audio: Cheryl Brumley
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| 0:00.0 | They would just come up with a plausible sounding name, create a banknote that was beautiful, |
| 0:04.8 | and start issuing notes. And people would accept them. I mean, you know, what are you going to do? |
| 0:09.2 | Check every single note that comes across the store counter? I mean, people tried, but it's kind of a fool's errand. |
| 0:14.9 | Today on the story of money, why can't we just print or issue our own money? |
| 0:30.4 | Well, in fact, people are. Just think about cryptocurrencies. |
| 0:34.2 | But there was a point in history where actually pretty much anybody with a state banking license |
| 0:39.4 | could in fact go out and print a note in America and call it money. And many did. We're talking |
| 0:46.1 | about the 19th century in America when the Federal Reserve, as we know it today, simply did not |
| 0:52.0 | exist. In fact, there wasn't even really a dollar. And as a result, |
| 0:56.8 | it was complete monetary chaos. And there was also a time when people were creating money all |
| 1:03.0 | over the place in a way that's got a lot of lessons for what we're seeing today with digital currencies. |
| 1:07.9 | Yes, because amid all that 19th century monetary chaos, |
| 1:12.3 | once upon the time in America, there was this charismatic con man called James Brown, |
| 1:19.0 | and he was the hardest working man in counterfeiting. And we're going to be focused on him |
| 1:23.7 | this episode, because his story really kind of embodies what happens when anyone and everyone |
| 1:30.3 | starts printing notes and calling it money. A slice of financial history that maybe also asks |
| 1:36.2 | some profound questions along the lines of, well, what even is money? So, welcome to the story |
| 1:43.0 | of money from the Financial Times. |
| 1:45.3 | A history show for finance geeks and a finance show for history nerds. And if you're neither, |
| 1:50.4 | well, we're going to try and make you one. And I'm Robin Wigglesworth. And I'm Gillian Ted. |
| 1:54.8 | Thank you. With us today to tell the story of this mastermind 19th century con man, James Brown, |
| 2:13.4 | is Stephen Min, a professor of history at the University of Georgia, a columnist for Bloomberg, |
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