Welcome to culture and Christianity.

The goal is to get our faith outside the walls of the church.

We can't sit in sanctuaries and sing songs and listen to sermons and then live like pagans.

So we've got to figure out what that looks like to lead with our faith in whatever arena God gives us influence. And I'm excited. We have a

special guest today. Sage Steele, welcome to Murphysboro. Thank you. I've never been to Murphy's

Borough, Pastor Allen. Your life has been incomplete. Glad to be here. Thank you. Well, we are doing a

conference on culture and Christianity and getting ready to do a segment on the media.

And so that's what delivered you to this grand city.

Yes.

You have had quite a journey through that media world.

I got to know you on SportsCenter.

So maybe we start there with...

Because, I mean, there were some unexpected... well, I mean, first, a lot of success.

I won't say really early.

I'm sure you worked really hard.

But for those of us on the outside, you showed up.

That's how it tends to happen.

You just kind of appear, you know.

But, yeah, it was a childhood dream.

Sports journalism?

Yes, to be a sportscaster.

Yep.

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