When Justice Fails: The Murder of Dylan Rounds

The Dr. Phil Podcast

Dr. Phil McGraw

Mental Health, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness

4.4 • 13.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

A grieving mother fights a broken system after the murder of her teenage son. Could Dylan Rounds still be alive today if justice worked?

What happens when the justice system protects the wrong people? Dr. Phil sits down with Reporter Nate Eaton and Candice Rounds, whose 19-year-old son, Dylan, vanished from rural Utah—only to later be declared murdered. Candice opens up about her son’s final days, the chilling details surrounding his disappearance, and the frustrating roadblocks she faced just trying to get someone to listen. Could Dylan’s killer have been stopped sooner? This powerful episode explores the emotional toll of crime, the legal system’s blind spots, and one mother’s relentless pursuit of accountability.

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0:00.0	The body of Dylan Rounds has been found.
0:03.8	Brenner pleaded guilty to second degree murder.
0:06.6	The man convicted is a violent career criminal.
0:09.8	Why was he roaming the streets free?
0:12.0	There's a known criminal, a violent criminal,
0:14.7	somebody that's been involved with attempted murder,
0:17.2	living right here.
0:18.4	With an active felony warrant for aggravated assault.
0:21.6	Had they locked him up? Could Dylan still be here? That's the question.
0:25.6	He was. 19-year-old Dylan Rounds had a sweet smile and disposition to match.
0:41.2	His mom says he had a work ethic you just don't find in most young people today.
0:46.5	He cared more about working on his farm than playing video games.
0:50.9	That farm that he had worked so hard to buy is also where he mysteriously banished and where his parents believe he was brutally murdered.
1:00.0	The man convicted is a violent career criminal who despite a laundry list of convictions was walking free on the same streets as this innocent team.
1:11.6	This is Dylan Rounds and he is currently missing out of Luson, Utah,
1:16.6	and his family needs your help if you're from the Idaho, Utah, Nevada area.
1:20.6	Some breaking news in the Dillon Rounds case, James Brenner,
1:25.6	the man who was squatting on property near Dylan's farm out in
1:29.7	Luce in Utah, was charged today with murder.
1:33.8	James Brenner is charged with aggravated murder and desecration of a human body. He limped into
1:39.6	the courtroom wearing an orange jumpsuit, handcuffs and cuffs around his ankles.
1:45.0	We have some breaking news to bring you right now.
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