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When it comes to vaccines, how are pediatricians restoring trust?

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🗓️ 6 July 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

If you're a parent, decisions about vaccines have gotten a lot more confusing recently. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.'s health department is walking back longstanding recommendations.

NPR's Pien Huang speaks with a pediatrician and a vaccine researcher to discuss how the changes may affect public health - and how frontline conversations are going between pediatricians and families.

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Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. entered office with the stated goal of making America healthy again.

0:07.1

We cannot have a strong country if we have six citizens.

0:10.2

He said that means restoring public trust in vaccines.

0:13.4

And I'll tell you how to start taking vaccine safety seriously.

0:17.1

Consider the best science available, even when the science contradicts established paradigms.

0:22.4

To do so, he fired all the members of a key group that recommends vaccines,

0:26.5

the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, or ACIP.

0:30.5

And we're going to be bringing people onto the ACIP panel, not any vacciners.

0:35.7

We're bringing people on who are credentialed scientists, who are highly

0:40.6

credentialed physicians, who are going to do evidence-based medicine. Kennedy handpicked

0:46.8

seven new members for the committee, which included Dr. Robert Malone, who has spread

0:51.1

vaccine misinformation before. And when the new committee members met at the end of June to discuss the vaccine schedule

0:57.0

for kids, things got pretty contentious.

0:59.8

Frankly, if he'll forgive the coaching, the slide that lists a series of...

1:08.0

That's Dr. Robert Malone, a newly appointed member of ACIP.

1:12.8

It would be preferable if that was structured in a way that we really knew what all of those

1:18.3

65 analyses were.

1:19.9

He was questioning CDC medical officer, Dr. Sarah Meyer, who was giving a presentation on

1:25.1

how the agency is continuing to make sure that COVID vaccines are safe.

1:28.4

We have looked at their data a number of different ways, and I'll try to walk through some of that.

1:34.6

It was a highly unusual moment that highlighted the tension between longtime vaccine experts like Dr. Meyer

1:41.1

and Kennedy's New Guard, many without that deep expertise, who question whether

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