When Is Public Penance Finally Enough?
The Trey Gowdy Podcast
FOX News Podcasts
4.7 • 6.5K Ratings
🗓️ 23 June 2026
⏱️ 9 minutes
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| 0:29.8 | Music Hey, this is Trey. |
| 0:50.0 | Thank you for joining us for a Tuesday edition of our podcast. |
| 0:59.3 | The question today is, when is it enough? |
| 1:12.8 | When are you sorry enough? When have you paid enough penance? As some of you may know, my favorite movie is The Mission, which is an older movie, but as kind of an all-star cast, at least as far as acting is concerned. |
| 1:19.2 | It's got nothing to do with politics as far as acting is concerned. |
| 1:23.4 | It includes Jeremy Irons, Robert De Niro, Liam Neeson, among others. |
| 1:28.5 | The movie is about a lot of things, including forgiveness. |
| 1:34.0 | De Niro's character was a slave trader who used violence to solve almost all of his problems. |
| 1:41.0 | He even killed his own brother. |
| 1:42.9 | And then he changed. |
| 1:44.8 | Some. He had so much guilt killed his own brother. And then he changed. Some. |
| 1:46.0 | He had so much guilt from his former life, especially the killing of his brother out of anger, that he carried around the weapons and the accoutrements of his past life in a gurney sack. |
| 1:57.8 | Literally, he carried it around. |
| 2:00.4 | It was a string around his neck, and then he |
| 2:03.3 | carried the sack. He was paying penance for his wrongs. He refused to accept forgiveness because |
| 2:10.6 | he had not suffered enough. And suffered he should have. He sold human beings. He separated families. |
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