We'll look up on the front page of the times, two days.

It's so touching that you're excited about being on the front page of the newspaper that you've worked for for 30 years.

I am, there's a picture of me, and then there's a picture of a beautiful lady and it says the best spring jackets to buy now.

Yes, because Wednesday is fashion day at the time.

Is that right? So therefore we'll have a picture of Giles and a picture of a lady in a spring jacket and then it'll fly off the newsstand.

Have you got that fantastic paper? My school days were grim, let the girls in, he cries.

Because yesterday you were writing a piece for a rival newspaper about the letting in of girls at 700 year old versus the school.

And then they called me and I was on a train and they wanted me to do it.

And it was literally, I said, no, I can't do it. And then I thought, oh fuck it, I can.

Yes, so Westminster, which is the school that we both went to, although many hundreds of years apart.

Early in its 700 year history.

Because it has decided at the moment they let girls in at the top two years and now they're going to let them in from seven.

They're going to have the same entry points as boys.

It's going to become a mixed school.

And it's going to be mixed all the way up.

We would don't give a shit to do it. We would not be talking about this, but it's in all the papers and on all the TV, everywhere.

Why is it a new story?

Yes, it's a good question actually. I think single sex education is something that's been talked about a lot recently because there is the central argument of

is it a good idea or is it? Why was it ever done? And is it still a good idea?

I thought the received wisdom is that co-education benefits boys and single sex education benefits girls.

I've heard it the other way around too. And it's all about what's benefited and what's not benefit.

Why do we do it? Because society used to be segregated.

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