When Hip Hop Tried to Fight the Power, and Lost
Notes from America with Kai Wright
WNYC Studios
4.4 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 7 September 2023
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Summary
As hip hop turns 50, Kai and reporter Christopher Johnson look back on an era of “conscious rap” that championed a sound that was political, community-minded and deeply pro-Black. But about six years after it started, that first wave of socially-conscious hip hop seemed to be over. Who killed it? And what’s the story of its rise and fall tell us about the relationship between culture, politics, and commerce?
We speak to:
- Rapper Kool Moe Dee
- Writer and filmmaker Nelson George
- Dan Charnas, author of The Big Payback
- Ann Carli, former hip hop record executive
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | It's Notes from America, I'm Kai Wright. |
| 0:11.1 | This year marks the 50th anniversary of hip hop, five decades between the moment that hip |
| 0:16.5 | hop emerged from a youth scene in the Bronx as this scrappy art and what we now know |
| 0:22.1 | as a multi billion dollar global business. |
| 0:26.5 | This week we look back at one chapter in that long remarkable story, a time in the |
| 0:32.2 | late 80s and early 90s when the music became a platform for a particular set of pro-black |
| 0:38.4 | political ideas that shaped kids like me. |
| 0:43.6 | Producer Christopher M. Johnson takes us back to that era and asks, where did go? |
| 0:48.9 | So Kai Wright, Christopher Johnson, where did you go up? |
| 0:53.2 | I grew up in Indianapolis. |
| 0:54.7 | Did you get into hip hop when you were a kid? |
| 0:56.0 | I did. |
| 0:57.0 | I mean, I wasn't like one of those like heads, you know, like I wasn't like steeped |
| 1:03.0 | in any music. |
| 1:05.5 | I just remember the fat boys. |
| 1:06.8 | I can say that was the first leg group I was like, yeah, that boys are a back, right? |
| 1:21.5 | I've never heard anyone say fat boys was there like on tray to hip hop, I'm not knocking |
| 1:27.7 | it. |
| 1:28.7 | That's just different. |
| 1:29.7 | It may have been because I was young and they were silly and fun, you know, and like. |
| 1:34.3 | And do you remember when you started getting into hip hop that was maybe a little more serious |
| 1:39.9 | or even political? |
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