When somebody dies people are definitely like they do not know how to like talk to you about it

Which I think is normal like I have been on the other side of it where like somebody's been like so-and-so died and I'm like oh

I don't know how to respond even though this just

happened to me. This is death, sex and money. I just killed my best friend.

And your worst enemy.

Same difference.

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

Are you guys like boyfriend, girlfriend?

And need to talk about more.

You're an incompetent setup.

I'm Anna Sale.

Rachel Ward had been a widow for two years

the first time we talked back in 2015 and it had been a long two years.

I guess I'm kind of hoping this is also sort of a juncture in my life and like a transition point.

You're hoping. Hope so. She just

written a medium post that went viral. It was titled, I'm sorry I didn't

respond to your email. My husband coughed to death two years ago. It was her effort to be

done with all the social awkwardness that comes with death.

It's always really stressful when I have to tell somebody. It's such a like, you really have to figure out,

you have to do a lot of like on-the-fly decision-making.

Like, I've been kind of a dick about it a few times where I've just been like, oh yeah, did you know I'm a widow?

Or like, been like, yeah, I know how you feel. My husband died.

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