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🗓️ 16 September 2025
⏱️ 106 minutes
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In this raw and unfiltered conversation, Trevor Cowley sits down with Matt Blanchard to talk about the realities of discipline, leadership, and the battles most people never see. From overcoming addiction to leading teams, Trevor and Matt dive deep into the mental grind of business, family, and personal growth.They break down the difference between passion and aggression, the sacrifices it takes to chase greatness, and how to know when it’s time to pivot in life or business. This isn’t theory—it’s lived experience, hard lessons, and brutally honest reflection.
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| 0:00.0 | Being an entrepreneur sounds cool, but the reality of building a business is very, very difficult. |
| 0:07.0 | Every level that you hit, there's a lot of things that suck that you just won't want to do. |
| 0:11.6 | What you're capable of is on the other side I don't feel like it. |
| 0:15.5 | And if you're committed to what it is that you're trying to do, nothing is going to stop you from getting there. |
| 0:23.7 | Welcome back to another episode of real business owners with myself, Trevor Cowley. |
| 0:27.4 | Today we have an incredible guest, a repeat guest, Maddie Blanchard, better known as Maddie B. |
| 0:32.7 | This episode is brought to you by easier accounting. |
| 0:35.0 | If you have accounting needs, make sure that you reach out to us so that we can take care of you. Guys, this conversation is all over the place. I think that |
| 0:42.1 | you guys are going to enjoy it. Here's today's episode. So sometimes people will confuse passion |
| 0:48.8 | for aggression. So like, it's even like the greats of the world, like the Kobe Bryant's or the Jordans or whatever, were they really aggressive or were they just passionate about the cause or what they were trying to accomplish. |
| 1:02.7 | And in some cases, the lines get blurred a little bit where it does maybe carry over into aggression a little bit because they're passionate. |
| 1:15.4 | There's one thing of just being aggressive, like for no reason at all. |
| 1:19.9 | Okay. |
| 1:20.3 | But like I think passion is a positive thing, but it will have some aggression behind it when things aren't going the way that |
| 1:29.6 | they would expect based upon the work that they've done. So it's like, dude, I'm doing all this |
| 1:35.2 | work and I see that you're not working to the same standard that I am. Now I'm getting upset. You're |
| 1:40.8 | not going to get upset unless you were passionate about the pursuit of what you're trying to do. So I think I think that the passion and aggression thing, I think some people can kind of confuse the two. I'm thinking of Paxton and Jordan right now. As you as you're explaining it that way, I'm thinking of Paxton and Jordan. |
| 1:57.8 | Only he had to hit him. Exactly. To get the Paxon to. |
| 2:01.8 | Or who was it? Was it Paxon or Kerr? It was Kerr. Yeah, it was Kerr. Yeah, it was Kerr where he's pushing him around to practice or wherever and he swung on him or whatever. But what came of that, though? I'm not championships, man. Championships, man. And the championships, results came from it. And Jordan said he had way more respect for Kerr after the fact. Like, he wanted to push him to see if he's willing to push back and fight back when times get tough. Like, somebody's got to be tough to people in practice because the games, nobody's going to take it easy on them the opponent's going to be tough so |
| 2:35.2 | right you're you're actually more so in in a mode of preparing your people for battle than than anything |
| 2:43.2 | it's like does the army really want to see people in pain or hurt or do they just want to prepare |
| 2:50.0 | them properly for what they might |
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