Hello and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Deb Bowen.

I'm Samantha Faye.

We are so excited that you are joining us again this week for not only a spooky show,

but one of our favorite books and we're going to be talking about

when Ghost Speak by Mary Ann Winkowski.

We also got some notes from folks on Facebook saying that many of you had either

read it at some point along the way or had read it in preparation for our discussion today.

So we're so glad that you have joined with us in this exploration of this wonderful book.

So Samantha, you want to get us started?

Sure. So I do love this book. I've read it a couple of times and it was a joy to dive back into

it in preparation for our show today. What I found so interesting, Deb, is that Mary Ann was raised

with a grandmother who firmly believed in the world of ghosts and spirits and curses, which we'll

talk about later and all this woo woo stuff. So when Mary Ann saw her first ghost, she was just

two years old. Now she doesn't remember it. She writes that she recalls it the way you do a memory

that's been told about you by family members. But according to her grandmother, she was baby

sitting Mary Ann and Mary Ann was in her room seated on the floor facing a corner,

talking anonymately and Italian. Now her grandparents did speak Italian, but Mary Ann didn't know

it fluently. And yet here she was conversating with an invisible presence to the grandmother's eye

in Italian. And the grandmother said, you have the gift. The grandmother had an ability to dream

about people before they died. And Mary Ann tells stories of how her grandmother would have a

dream about someone back in Italy. And she'd they lived in Ohio and she'd walk to a neighbor's house

ring their doorbell and say, I'm so sorry your uncle Louis has died. You should hear about it in

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